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Posted on: Jan 18 2010, 04:52 PM
Went to a comic shop today and on the stands was the first issue of the World Weekly News comic.

Klar, are you involved in this?
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Posted on: Jan 15 2010, 12:14 AM
Does the book contain "Robin Dies at Dawn"?

That used to be one of my favorites.
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Posted on: Jan 9 2010, 04:51 AM
QUOTE (Klar Ken T5477 @ Jan 8 2010, 05:05 PM) *
corrected, thanks

I think in context, the term made sense. I was just shocked when I read it - I never thought I'd see those words together in the same sentence.
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Posted on: Jan 9 2010, 01:55 AM
IIRC, the Enquirer is only readable by people in the U.S. - or by people overseas who use one of those free online proxy servers.
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Posted on: Jan 8 2010, 09:32 PM
"alleged co-creator Jack Kirby"

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Posted on: Jan 8 2010, 07:16 PM
Yeah, I've always heard that the GA Superman killed, but I still don't believe it.

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Posted on: Jan 8 2010, 06:55 AM
More cool films:

Jackie Chan in the Karate Kid remake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMsZM-MNI1A&NR=1
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Posted on: Jan 8 2010, 06:51 AM
Live Action Starblazers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkh786EbSg
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Posted on: Jan 7 2010, 05:02 PM
Although the second half of the movie took place in a city called "Metropolis," it was clearly filmed in NYC and the Planet Building was a well-known New York building. To the viewing public, it was for all intents and purposes New York City.

Maggin has said that when writing his early stories, he always imagined that Smallville was in New England (maybe New Hampshire or someplace? I'm not certain) - and in fact, the names of some of his landmarks happen to be the same names as locations near Brandeis University, in Waltham Massachusetts.

According to him, he moved Smallville to Kansas in his novels because Kansas was mentioned in a draft of the movie script which he had read. I don't think the state is explicitely mentioned in the movie itself, however, so probably the original source was the script. It think it was then stated in the Byrne miniseries and the rest is history.
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Posted on: Dec 30 2009, 09:49 PM

I pulled this fan-created image off the 'net a while back for use on STTA. Now I'm trying to find out who the creator is. Any leads appreciated.

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Posted on: Dec 30 2009, 09:45 PM
QUOTE (Super Monkey @ Dec 30 2009, 04:09 PM) *
But, my favorite ever, has to be "The Man Who Stole the Sun" by Jerry Siegel and Curt Swan.

http://superman.nu/tales4/stolethesun/

One of my all-time faves. Curt Swan says this was the story that led to him becoming the primary Superman artist, and somebody somewhere stated that the adventure is "adapted from a story in Superman #48 (1947) by Jerry Siegel & John Sikela" which I have never seen but am very curious about.
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Posted on: Dec 28 2009, 11:39 PM
Nice. Count me in.
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Posted on: Dec 23 2009, 04:07 PM
How about a poll on the forum? I'd vote for Lassie, Krypto, and Snowy (from Tintin)
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Posted on: Dec 22 2009, 04:48 AM
Maybe he would have gotten more bids if he'd used ebay.
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Posted on: Dec 17 2009, 06:09 PM
I'll grant that it's possible that the global-warming fear is overstated and that there's nothing to worry about. It's also possible that the concerns are understated and that unless changes are made we will be in deep doo-doo. The problem is that both sides are playing to fears and emotions and not to science, so there's really no way to find out the true situation and possible causes. This trend isn't just limited to climate change. Political issues, economic problems, etc - all have been reduced to sound bites, snipes, and sneers with no effort to creating an effective, long-term solution; but plenty of effort to creating short-term appearances and postures and having somebody to argue with.

I sometimes think the real motivation here is - who will get the money? But whatever the "true" motivation is, no one seems to be talking about it.

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Posted on: Dec 4 2009, 04:12 AM
QUOTE (Super Monkey @ Dec 3 2009, 08:18 PM) *
Name a Superhero of today that is a role model... unsure.gif unsure.gif

That sounds like a challenge, sir.

Here are some possbilities that come to mind:

Mister Fantastic.

Captain America.

Martian Manhunter?

Nick Fury?

Invisible Woman

Matt Murdock?


Don't know if any of them still hold up, though - I haven't read comics in a dog's age.

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Posted on: Nov 22 2009, 04:31 PM
You guys are all so 20th century.
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Posted on: Nov 18 2009, 09:51 PM
QUOTE (telle @ Nov 17 2009, 10:59 PM) *
By the way, has anyone else heard about the new version of Peanuts by Lynn Johnston?

I fell for this, but then noticed the April 1 date of the article.

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Posted on: Nov 18 2009, 03:25 AM
I don't have it either - I'm really curious if he's been able to work his bizarre sexual obsessions into the book. The cover shows promise.
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Posted on: Nov 17 2009, 04:18 AM
QUOTE (Klar Ken T5477 @ Nov 16 2009, 11:09 PM) *
FIRST LOOK HAWKMAN (him they do right!)

Great costume.

Reminds me of somebody, can't think who though.

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Posted on: Nov 12 2009, 07:36 PM
Thanks again - I've fixed the problem.

Sorry for the delay, I've been busy with the paying work. I'm glad to hear that someone's using the site, though!
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Posted on: Nov 10 2009, 03:28 AM
I don't really have any interest in seeing a new Mad Max movie - but if they had cast Mel Gibson as an older, mellow, wise and subdued Max, I might have gone to see it. Looks like it's a direct sequel to Thunderdome though:

QUOTE (Wikipedia)
Plans for the fourth film of the Mad Max series, tentatively known as Mad Max 4: Fury Road, or simply Mad Max 4, hit financial difficulties early on, and was in development hell for around 25 years. George Miller announced in 2003 that a script had been written for a fourth film, Mad Max 4: Fury Road, and that pre-production was in the early stages. Although the project was given the green light for a $100 million USD budget to begin shooting in Australia in May 2003, Fury Road almost immediately entered hiatus due to security concerns related to trying to film in Namibia Africa, because the United States and many other countries have tightened travel and shipping restrictions. With the outbreak of the Second Gulf War, Fury Road was (at that time) abandoned as what was a potentially politically sensitive film.

(link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Max_4:_Fury_Road#Sequel )



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Posted on: Nov 7 2009, 02:05 PM
QUOTE (Super Monkey @ Nov 6 2009, 07:34 PM) *
The lost the copyright a long time ago but brought it back about a few years ago. It was a big deal at the time. Something to do with Al Michaels?!?

seriously: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_the_Lu..._Michaels_trade

That's exactly the scam I'm talking about. According to the article in question, Disney didn't really buy back Oswald's copyright in 2006 (they are only claiming they did) because it was never truly part of the Al Michaels package. Oswald had entered the public domain in 1956, when Disney failed to renew the copyright:

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I'm a big Disney fan, but I also believe in the rule of law and this has bothered me ever since the media giddily reported that Disney had regained the rights to Oswald the Rabbit in a "swamp" for ABC's Al Michaels contract.

The copyright to Oswald the Lucky Rabbit was not traded for sportscaster Al Michaels in 2006 BECAUSE there was no copyright. The whole thing was a strange and disturbing scam perpetrated on a media and public that does not (and should not be expected to) understand the complicated nuances of the history of intellectual property law, all to cover up one inconvenient fact: Oswald has not been protected by copyright since January 1, 1956.

I'm glad Disney wants to release Oswald toons again, though the latest news of Oswald as a villain in the Epic video game leaves me nonplussed. That aside. I do not think powerful media corporations, Disney or any others, should be able to “will” a copyright into existence simply because the issue is confusing in order to diminish the already anemic public domain, which is why I wanted to explain the issue a bit here. With so much done to destroy the public domain, this is the last thing we need as a precedent. I am happy to have honest arguments about whether copyright protection should continually be extended or not, but I am very distressed to see conscious trickery about what is under copyright or not.

The history will no doubt be familiar to some of you, but the legal details will not. The first Oswald film produced by Disney and Ub Iwerks was made in spring of 1927 and titled “Poor Papa.” Charles Mintz, their distributor in New York, screened it and found the rabbit fat and sloppy and decided to shelve it. The film was not released at that point and not yet copyrighted. So Disney and Iwerks redesigned Oswald and put him into another film called “Trolley Troubles.” We know the film shipped out of the Disney-Iwerks studio on May 1, 1927 to Mintz who liked it better. “Trolley Troubles” officially debuted on July 4 at the Criterion Theatre in Los Angeles, then appeared in New York City at the Roxy Theatre on July 15, then released widely on September 5, 1927.

“Trolley Troubles” was appropriately copyrighted at the point of this initial release (copyright #L24088). At the time (before changes in the 1960s and 1970s to the copyright law) copyright lasted 28 years and then had to be renewed or would expire. Since “Trolley Troubles” first debuted in 1927, Universal had a brief window of opportunity circa 1955 in which to renew the copyright. Specifically, they had one year leading up to June 9, 1955 to do it, or the film would fall into the public domain on January 1 of the following year. "Poor Papa" was not copyrighted until May 22, 1928 and not released until June 11, 1928, almost a year after "Trolley Troubles" (in the interval many other Oswald films were made and released). Important to remember that all of this is under the 1909 copyright law, which has nothing to do with the date of production or creation (which do matter under our modern copyright law), but instead have to do with time of release/publication to the public.

The copyright of characters is not an explicit part of the copyright law, but through case law it is well established that copyright obtains upon the character’s first copyrighted appearance—in this case, Oswald’s first film to be released and copyrighted, both of which are “Trolley Troubles.” If the first appearance of a character is not under copyright, no later copyrighted appearance can put the genie back in the bottle. This is undisputed in copyright law. The alternative would be nonsensical, one could perpetually point to a character's later appearance that is under copyright, whether a month after a first appearance or a century later, to claim copyright on a public domain character (otherwise I could make, say, a Yellow Kid or Gertie the Dinosaur cartoon or a new Sherlock Holmes novel today, copyright it, and then claim the character as being removed from the public domain and under copyright again). One of the things copyright law has been consistent about through many other changes is that once a property is in the public domain, it cannot be recovered as a protected property.

The records show that all of the 1928 Oswald films had been appropriately renewed for copyright in the mid-1950s. But, according to the original and consolidated government copyright records, none of the 1927 films were submitted by Universal for copyright renewal. Here is the most important part: there is seemingly no record of “Trolley Troubles” ever having been renewed. That means Oswald officially and permanently entered the public domain on January 1, 1956. That means this showboating about getting the rights to Oswald back fifty years later was silly and, worse, disingenuous. Or, at best, it was ignorant and misinformed.

The only possible counterargument from a Disney perspective, a seemingly weak one at that, would be to point to the valid copyright on “Poor Papa,” which some will recall was the first attempt at an Oswald cartoon by the Disney folks that was nixed by their distributor before being released. The copyright to “Poor Papa” was properly renewed in 1956. But the film was not originally released until long after “Trolley Troubles.” We don't have to dig into that. We need only look at their original copyright dates – “Trolley Troubles” was registered June 9, 1927, and “Poor Papa” on May 22, 1928. It simply does not matter under the relevant copyright regime that “Poor Papa” was produced earlier (whereas this would matter very much under our modern copyright laws, where copyright protection accrues upon creation of a work). Even if Disney could argue that “Poor Papa” was “released” first because it was screened for one person—Mintz—this wouldn't matter since it was not yet copyrighted at the time. And there is no argument that “Poor Papa” was released to the public first. (Look even at the “official” Disney histories WALT DISNEY - AN AMERICAN ORIGINAL by Bob Thomas, 1994, and DISNEY A TO Z - THE OFFICIAL ENCYCLOPEDIA, by Dave Smith, 1996. Dave Smith is the current head of Disney archives. Both confirm that "Trolley Troubles" was the "first of the [Oswald] cartoons to be released" (Thomas) and "the first released" (Smith), widely distributed September 5, 1927).

Universal in the 1950s likely had little concept of the value of character ownership in an era before television and other secondary markets. Indeed, it was not only “Trolley Troubles” and “Oh, Teacher” (originally copyrighted July 20, 1927) that were ignored for renewal, but these other Oswald cartoons were never renewed (original copyright dates listed in parentheses): “Great Guns” ( September 15, 1927) “The Mechanical Cow” ( September 10, 1927), “The Ocean Hop” ( Sept 8, 1927), “The Banker’s Daughter” ( September 15, 1927), “Rickey Gin” ( October 19, 1927), and “Empty Socks” ( November 23, 1927). Note that five of these films were part of the “deal” so excitedly reported in the press to transfer Oswald's rights from Universal to Disney in 2006, except (minor point!) that since they were never renewed and they are firmly in the public domain since the fifties those five film cannot be the subject of anyrights deal except for physical possession of the footage. The bottom line is this: today by law anyone is allowed to use Oswald the Rabbit's image, to market toys and games, to make new films, cartoons, parodies (even outside of fair use). I wish Disney would admit this, and for a change throw a bone out to the public domain. They would still own the rare, physical and fragile films they got back from Universal (and presumably invested in restoring, which is good for everyone). On a related note, I find Disney's rush to plant their flag back into Oswald and to merchandise Oswald interesting because they may be hoping to strengthen his trademark, knowing full well there is zero claim to a copyright.

(By the way, all copyright dates and renewal dates above were checked in the Catalog of Copyright Entries from those years. The only argument I could conceive of by Disney that would make this information wrong is that Universal renewed it and the renewal was left out of the CCE. I've never heard of an example of that.)

What would Disney's official response to this information be? I don't know. I know I'm not the only one, by any means, to have noticed this problem in the Oswald narrative. I know of people in the animation and law communities who are aware of this and, as far as I know, have remained silent.

None of the above regarding Universal's failure to renew are surprising, by the way. As some of you may know, anything first released before Jan 1, 1923 is automatically public domain, no further questions asked. (Interestingly, the fact has not led to much public use of a character even as well known as Felix the Cat, in part because people get so easily confused about what's in the public domain... certainly the "official" Felix site doesn't mention we're all free to use him as a character). Now, a film released between 1923 and 1963 was given a copyright term of 28 years. This meant one had to renew the copyright in the 28th year after its release—you could not do it sooner and you could not do it later than the 28th year after its release. If “Trolley Troubles” had been properly renewed, then it would absolutely still be under copyright today. But the estimate is that only about 15% of material was properly renewed in that time period roughly in the early to mid fifties. Some major films were not renewed and for the simple reason that film companies were not on top of this, not having consciousness of burgeoning recycled markets or foresight that those markets would develop. Films now in the public domain for the simple reason of non-renewal include some as prominent as the 1960 Roger Corman version of Little Shop of Horrors, which was supposed to be renewed in 1988 and was not (if it had been, it would be protected until 2055!), and Chaplin's Gold Rush. Many broad categories of films tended to be blindly overlooked for renewal, including early westerns and B-movies. Also cartoon shorts. Especially if, by the years in which a film required renewal, a character was completely defunct, as was the case with Oswald, who by 1955 was more or less a nonentity.

By contrast, Walt Disney made sure to renew “Steamboat Willie” and “Plane Crazy” around the same time. He knew that if he neglected this Mickey would join the public domain. So why has no one in the media that cheerily covered the Oswald story (“Oswald comes home!”) noticed any of this?

I contacted two different animation historians, one involved with the Oswald re-released DVD. Their response? They blatantly said they don't care about the legitimacy of the copyright, and that Disney could take care of Oswald better than the public. One pointed out the misuse of cartoon characters whenever the public gets a chance, like the Calvin and Hobbes obscene black market merchandise. Maybe that's true. But that's not the point. Corporations and animation historians do not get to decide that the public should not have the ability to use the public domain. Not in my opinion, not by law.

I tried contacting the media when they had their silly articles about the Al Michaels-Oswald "swap" but each said they weren't lawyers and weren't able to evaluate it. Good journalism.

I will anticipate one response: is it that important? No, it's not the end of the world. But the public domain has been crucial to artistic development over the years... including for the many public domain properties used by Disney like, say, Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.
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Posted on: Nov 6 2009, 08:04 PM
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Cannot access website.

Unfortunately the forum goes down occasionally. It usually comes back up again in fairly short order - unless Disney hauled out the Big Guns this time. happy.gif
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Posted on: Nov 6 2009, 05:45 PM
I know there have been various threads here about copyright issues - Superman, DC, Marvel, etc; but I couldn't track them all down and don't know the best place to post this, but I believe it relates:

http://dcf.outducks.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8057#p8057

It's from a Disney Comics forum, about the machinations that Disney is using to basically delude others into thinking it has a copyright that it in truth it lost back in the 1950s.

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